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	<title>Comments on: Compare and Contrast: LRA and LCRA</title>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
		<link>http://www.showmedaily.org/2010/08/compare-and-contrast-lra-and.html/comment-page-1#comment-7837</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Douglas Duckworth: To clarify, Christine Harbin wrote this post, not Rex Sinquefield, the co-founder of the Show-Me Institute. The point isn&#039;t that a private buyer should be purchasing vacant LRA property just so that a private individual can land bank instead of a public institution. The point is a public institution shouldn&#039;t be barring private individuals from purchasing vacant land who want to put it to productive use.

You may be right on the point that the LRA does not technically &lt;i&gt;remove&lt;/i&gt; properties from the tax base -- because the agency &lt;i&gt;usually&lt;/i&gt; acquires properties that are tax delinquent. Your point is a technicality.

LRA does, in two ways, carve out sections of the city tax base. First, the LRA sometimes purchases property at tax sales, meaning that it is out-bidding a private, would-be buyer. In those instances, the LRA is removing properties from the tax base, because if the private buyer had been successful in his or her bid, that buyer would end up paying property taxes. 

Second, by denying private buyers the ability to purchase property, the LRA is not &quot;removing&quot; property from the tax base -- it is intentionally keeping property from returning to private owners. This is technically different from removing property from the tax base, but it has the same result.

While I can&#039;t speak for Chrissy, I will admit that I frequently am a drunken vagrant. It&#039;s the only way to get through such depressing public meetings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Douglas Duckworth: To clarify, Christine Harbin wrote this post, not Rex Sinquefield, the co-founder of the Show-Me Institute. The point isn&#8217;t that a private buyer should be purchasing vacant LRA property just so that a private individual can land bank instead of a public institution. The point is a public institution shouldn&#8217;t be barring private individuals from purchasing vacant land who want to put it to productive use.</p>
<p>You may be right on the point that the LRA does not technically <i>remove</i> properties from the tax base &#8212; because the agency <i>usually</i> acquires properties that are tax delinquent. Your point is a technicality.</p>
<p>LRA does, in two ways, carve out sections of the city tax base. First, the LRA sometimes purchases property at tax sales, meaning that it is out-bidding a private, would-be buyer. In those instances, the LRA is removing properties from the tax base, because if the private buyer had been successful in his or her bid, that buyer would end up paying property taxes. </p>
<p>Second, by denying private buyers the ability to purchase property, the LRA is not &#8220;removing&#8221; property from the tax base &#8212; it is intentionally keeping property from returning to private owners. This is technically different from removing property from the tax base, but it has the same result.</p>
<p>While I can&#8217;t speak for Chrissy, I will admit that I frequently am a drunken vagrant. It&#8217;s the only way to get through such depressing public meetings.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Duckworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Duckworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;both the LRA and the LCRA promote policies that remove properties from the tax base and therefore reduce the amount of property tax revenue received by the city&quot;

Are you a drunken vagrant?  The LRA does not remove properties from the tax &quot;base,&quot; correct term being tax yield.  The LRA receives properties through tax delinquency.  Though the LRA has egregious management problems, it is not the Grinch bureaucrat which stole tax revenuve from the City.  Perhaps we should scrutinize billionaire&#039;s who attack governance yet exploit the public dole?  Could Rex talk to the Koch&#039;s about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;both the LRA and the LCRA promote policies that remove properties from the tax base and therefore reduce the amount of property tax revenue received by the city&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you a drunken vagrant?  The LRA does not remove properties from the tax &#8220;base,&#8221; correct term being tax yield.  The LRA receives properties through tax delinquency.  Though the LRA has egregious management problems, it is not the Grinch bureaucrat which stole tax revenuve from the City.  Perhaps we should scrutinize billionaire&#8217;s who attack governance yet exploit the public dole?  Could Rex talk to the Koch&#8217;s about that?</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Duckworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Duckworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why doesn&#039;t Rex return the $300,000 in Historic Tax Credits which he received for his building on North Union, that houses his lobbying firm Pelopidas, in order to purchase some LRA/LCRA properties?  I mean, you know, someone of high means criticizing a greedy lazy government should at least lead by example and not selfish interest, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why doesn&#8217;t Rex return the $300,000 in Historic Tax Credits which he received for his building on North Union, that houses his lobbying firm Pelopidas, in order to purchase some LRA/LCRA properties?  I mean, you know, someone of high means criticizing a greedy lazy government should at least lead by example and not selfish interest, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Duda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Duda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the question. We should contact a few and ask if they wouldn&#039;t mind participating in a controlled experiment: Each promises to &quot;invest&quot; the same amount in a building, yielding the same number and type of &quot;jobs.&quot; One wears a suit. The other wears a polo shirt and jeans. LCRA just might choose to endorse a 10-year tax abatement for the former and a 5-year tax abatement for the latter...

The only problem is what developer would ever risk 5 years of tax benefits in the pursuit of hard data for our experiment?

This is the difficulty with economics: There&#039;s really no way to control reality. Instead, all we can do is observe and extrapolate. My money&#039;s always gonna be on the suits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the question. We should contact a few and ask if they wouldn&#8217;t mind participating in a controlled experiment: Each promises to &#8220;invest&#8221; the same amount in a building, yielding the same number and type of &#8220;jobs.&#8221; One wears a suit. The other wears a polo shirt and jeans. LCRA just might choose to endorse a 10-year tax abatement for the former and a 5-year tax abatement for the latter&#8230;</p>
<p>The only problem is what developer would ever risk 5 years of tax benefits in the pursuit of hard data for our experiment?</p>
<p>This is the difficulty with economics: There&#8217;s really no way to control reality. Instead, all we can do is observe and extrapolate. My money&#8217;s always gonna be on the suits.</p>
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		<title>By: ZOMG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZOMG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tom: Good point. Let me rephrase my question. If the corporate developers at LCRA meetings don&#039;t wear suits, will they continue get handouts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tom: Good point. Let me rephrase my question. If the corporate developers at LCRA meetings don&#8217;t wear suits, will they continue get handouts?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Duda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Duda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZOMG, who said people who want to buy LRA property are &quot;low-income?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZOMG, who said people who want to buy LRA property are &#8220;low-income?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ZOMG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZOMG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will low-income people be allowed to buy LRA property if they wear suits?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will low-income people be allowed to buy LRA property if they wear suits?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Duda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Duda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, you are really starting to show your &quot;ultra conservative&quot; colors, Chrissy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, you are really starting to show your &#8220;ultra conservative&#8221; colors, Chrissy.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Duda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Duda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 23:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh. Snap.

Eliminate special interest&lt;del&gt;giveaways&lt;/del&gt; abatements and lower property tax rates for all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh. Snap.</p>
<p>Eliminate special interest<del>giveaways</del> abatements and lower property tax rates for all!</p>
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