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	<title>Comments on: Limiting Casino Competition</title>
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		<title>By: vroman</title>
		<link>http://www.showmedaily.org/2010/02/limiting-casino-competition.html/comment-page-1#comment-5487</link>
		<dc:creator>vroman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Stokes
A) Even if you are right and casinos harm &#039;society&#039;, it is still voluntary transactions between consenting adults. You can&#039;t argue for state intervention in this case without inviting wholesale patronizing control over absolutely any behavior that you or any other minority arbitrarily declares as &#039;harmful&#039; for society at large. I see zero logical distinction between the Missouri Gaming Commission and the Taliban.

B) So people can either put their income into long term investments or short term consumption. The more investment, the more economic growth, etc. So ceteris paribus we&#039;d rather see people limit consumption and maximize investment. Gambling is clearly consumption (though granted some irrational gamblers think they are investing), however it is not economically different from any other fleeting entertainment consumption. If casinos attract business, it must be the case that they offer better value than other competing income-sinks. Allowing free market in casinos increases standard of living, by making other purveyers of consumption goods work harder to keep customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stokes<br />
A) Even if you are right and casinos harm &#8217;society&#8217;, it is still voluntary transactions between consenting adults. You can&#8217;t argue for state intervention in this case without inviting wholesale patronizing control over absolutely any behavior that you or any other minority arbitrarily declares as &#8216;harmful&#8217; for society at large. I see zero logical distinction between the Missouri Gaming Commission and the Taliban.</p>
<p>B) So people can either put their income into long term investments or short term consumption. The more investment, the more economic growth, etc. So ceteris paribus we&#8217;d rather see people limit consumption and maximize investment. Gambling is clearly consumption (though granted some irrational gamblers think they are investing), however it is not economically different from any other fleeting entertainment consumption. If casinos attract business, it must be the case that they offer better value than other competing income-sinks. Allowing free market in casinos increases standard of living, by making other purveyers of consumption goods work harder to keep customers.</p>
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		<title>By: David Stokes</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Stokes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Casinos are probably the number one example of why I am not now, never have been, and never will be a Libertarian. I believe, and I readily admit this is unproveable, that legalized gambling does far more harm to society than illegal gambling does. While I don&#039;t think simple games of poker or Super Bowl bets should be illegal (even in the totally unenforced manner they currently are illegal), I agree the state has a role in regulating how casinos operate in Missouri.

I remember voting against allowing casinos back around 1995. I would vote the same way again. Even most of the small number of people who support drug legalization (all drugs, not just marijuana), think drug sales should then be regulated by the state, much in the same way alcohol is regulated (have to be 21, etc.). But if gambling (and by gambling I mean casinos) are going to be allowed, I think they should be treated the same way as alcohol is and drugs or prostitution would be if they were legalized: as vices with social costs that should be limited in certain ways.

This is not intended as a defense of the proposal discussed above, which would entail removing the license of one facility for the public reason of too few taxes and the private reason that the backers of the new casino in North County just have more political power than the current owners of the Admiral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casinos are probably the number one example of why I am not now, never have been, and never will be a Libertarian. I believe, and I readily admit this is unproveable, that legalized gambling does far more harm to society than illegal gambling does. While I don&#8217;t think simple games of poker or Super Bowl bets should be illegal (even in the totally unenforced manner they currently are illegal), I agree the state has a role in regulating how casinos operate in Missouri.</p>
<p>I remember voting against allowing casinos back around 1995. I would vote the same way again. Even most of the small number of people who support drug legalization (all drugs, not just marijuana), think drug sales should then be regulated by the state, much in the same way alcohol is regulated (have to be 21, etc.). But if gambling (and by gambling I mean casinos) are going to be allowed, I think they should be treated the same way as alcohol is and drugs or prostitution would be if they were legalized: as vices with social costs that should be limited in certain ways.</p>
<p>This is not intended as a defense of the proposal discussed above, which would entail removing the license of one facility for the public reason of too few taxes and the private reason that the backers of the new casino in North County just have more political power than the current owners of the Admiral.</p>
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		<title>By: John Payne</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, I remember that now.  I voted against it then, and I was pretty disappointed that it passed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, I remember that now.  I voted against it then, and I was pretty disappointed that it passed.</p>
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		<title>By: John Payne</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the casino is closed for safety reasons, I have much less of a problem with it, but they should have the opportunity to make the necessary repairs and reopen.  I was not aware of any such cap on the number of casinos, but that is completely arbitrary and should be eliminated; competition should regulate the number of casinos not government fiat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the casino is closed for safety reasons, I have much less of a problem with it, but they should have the opportunity to make the necessary repairs and reopen.  I was not aware of any such cap on the number of casinos, but that is completely arbitrary and should be eliminated; competition should regulate the number of casinos not government fiat.</p>
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		<title>By: Eapen Thampy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eapen Thampy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Were you here in 2008 when Missouri passed Proposition A?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were you here in 2008 when Missouri passed Proposition A?</p>
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		<title>By: Eapen Thampy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eapen Thampy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The casino is scheduled for a hull inspection this summer that it isn&#039;t likely to pass. The Commission, to my understanding, is limited by statute to cap the number of licenses at 13. They are currently soliciting three other bids for that license from casinos wanting to open in KC, North St. Louis, and Cape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The casino is scheduled for a hull inspection this summer that it isn&#8217;t likely to pass. The Commission, to my understanding, is limited by statute to cap the number of licenses at 13. They are currently soliciting three other bids for that license from casinos wanting to open in KC, North St. Louis, and Cape.</p>
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